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Postby slashmaster101 » Sun Jun 20, 2010 11:53 pm

New Fight !

NIGHTSCALE VS SHADOWHORN (GAPING JAW'S)
LOCATION: ISLA SORNA< PLAINS AREA

NightScale bellowed and sniffed the air hoping to locate his carnator apponent, he crouched protecting his under belly and legs, The black postachusus's only weak spots
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Postby Iceking » Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:56 am

A few feet away from the Postasuchus. there came a growl as the Carnotaur seemed to appear out of thin air. Shadowhorn eyes Nightscale, noticing that the four legged creature was covering it's soft belly by crouching. He made another growl at his enemy, taunting it to make a move...
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Postby slashmaster101 » Mon Jun 21, 2010 10:24 am

Nightscale roared and charged the carnator, headbutting the theropod in the stomach and sinking his teeth into shadowhorn's leg, as a crunching sound is heard and nightscale growl's in satisfaction.
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Postby Iceking » Mon Jun 21, 2010 4:14 pm

Shadowhorn, having been watching Nightscale carefully, swung his tail into the Postosuchus's head as it neared. The force of the blow making the Carnotaur's foe stagger back a couple steps, which Shadowhorn used to his advantage by stepping back himself, all the while watching the quadrupedal reptile...

Ooc:Slashmaster, you can't just break someone's leg when the fight has only lasted three posts. That makes it an unfair fight.
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Postby slashmaster101 » Mon Jun 21, 2010 4:22 pm

Nightscale staggered and growled and spun smashing his tail againest the taller predator's ankle's causing him to fall. nightscale rushed forward and grabbed one of the predator's arm's in his mouth and did an early version of the death roll as the carnator roared in pain
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Postby Iceking » Mon Jun 21, 2010 4:45 pm

Even as one of his arms was bitten, Shadowhorn bit down onto the left front leg of the Postosuchus, applying enough pressure so that Nightscale was forced to let go of the Carnotaur's arm before too much damage could be dealt. Getting back to his feet, Shadowhorn suddenly seemed to vanish into thin air, not even a trace of a a scale being visible...
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Postby slashmaster101 » Mon Jun 21, 2010 4:51 pm

Nightscale sniffed and listening for any sounds heard a snorting breathing sound and charged the sounds location and knocked the carnotaur over and proceded to pummel the dinosaur with his front leg's while snarling " this should teach you to never underestimate therasid's".
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Postby Iceking » Mon Jun 21, 2010 5:02 pm

Shadowhorn, having still been watching Nightscale's movement, ajusted his stance so that rather than getting knocked over, he only staggered. Quickly recovering, he lunged forward, his head hitting the Postosuchus's and dazing it briefly. The Carnotaur growled:"I never did say I underestimated your kind. However, you seem to be the one not taking me seriously. I've seen Rapotrs who have put up better fights than you currently are."
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Postby slashmaster101 » Mon Jun 21, 2010 5:08 pm

Nightscale roared in anger and standing on his hind legs he was as tall as shadowhorn and bodyslammed the carnotaur to the ground bellowing as he ripped the predator's already damaged arm right off and pummeled the carnotaur's stomach with his back legs.
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Postby Iceking » Mon Jun 21, 2010 5:14 pm

Shadowhorn's jaws clamped onto the left front leg of Nightscale and bit down with full force, a snap being heard that announced the limb of the Postosuchus was broken, the pain forcing Nightscale to let go of the arm he had clamped down on before it could be torn off. The Carnotaur got back to his feet, showing himself once again before backing up several steps. If Nigthscale tried to attack again despite his broken limb, Shadowhorn would make sure it would also be the last...
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Postby slashmaster101 » Mon Jun 21, 2010 5:35 pm

nightscale fell on his side roaring in pain as blood oozed from his wound but he struggled to his feet and spoke " you are a powerful opponent but i'v faced stronger foe's" with that he lunged and caught the carnotaurs neck in his jaws crushing the wind pipe and throut
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Postby Iceking » Mon Jun 21, 2010 5:44 pm

Thanks to the several steps he had taken backwards and because he saw Nightscale get back to his feet, but not try to flee, Shadowhorn jerked his head back, the attempted attack missing his throat. Lunging forward himself, the Carnotaur grabbed the Postosuchus's neck in his jaws and bent it downward until the breaking of neck bones was heard. Letting go of the now limp body, Shadowhorn hissed:"If you had walked away after I broke your leg, I would have shown you mercy and let you go. Instead, you chose to make a very unwise choice. May others of your kind not be as suicidal when they have broken limbs." With this, he began to dig into kill, teeth tearing through the weak belly scales easily...

A good fight, Slashmaster, but there were more mistakes you made beyond ones that cost you the fight. The first was that you can't inflict a crippling injury early in a fight. The fight has to last a certain amount of time before somone can do that. Second, you can't just say someone's character is making a noise, since that would be considered controlling them without permission from the character owner. Now, regarding mistakes you made that led to your defeat, the main one you made was that you didn't focus on your defense enough. Mixing offense and defense can be the key to victory, but after the first post, you just went purely on the offensive, which gave Shadowhorn openings he could exploit. Had Nightscale focused on his both his offense and defense, Shadowhorn would have found it harder to find an opening to exploit.
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Postby Evil Eye » Mon Jun 21, 2010 5:47 pm

You also need to be more specific and detailed with your posts, Slashmasta; if you just say "he bit the so and so's arm, then bellowed in victory as the opponent flopped over dead", one, that's extremely unrealistic, and two, the opponent can find loopholes and openings, and exploit them. I guess that comes with time though.
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Postby C S » Mon Jun 21, 2010 5:53 pm

IK: I disagree. A good defense is a good offense, but a good offense isnt rushing blindly into oncoming danger.
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Postby Evil Eye » Mon Jun 21, 2010 5:55 pm

Then why do they say... the best defense is a good offense...? O.o
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Postby C S » Mon Jun 21, 2010 5:56 pm

......thats what I just said, just without the word best :P

Good Offense: Exploiting an opening, doing damage and getting your opponent into a position that fighting back becomes harder

Bad Offense: RUSH THAT MOTHERF*CKER RRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGHHH
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Postby Evil Eye » Mon Jun 21, 2010 6:06 pm

Oh. Well, you used good for both, so it coulda worked either way, that's what confuzzed me. O.o
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Postby TyrannoTitan » Mon Jun 21, 2010 6:12 pm

That was a terribad fight. But it wasn't your fault, IK.

Slashmaster apparently didn't read ANY rules or RPing guides what so ever. First, as IK said, you can't break a limb 2 seconds into the fight. Second, you can't control other peoples' characters.

as the carnator roared in pain


That is controlling another person's character. You can't FORCE them to "roar in pain".

Third, you ended the fight when clearly your character was losing. Badly. That isn't how you RP. For one, you don't end fights this early. Ever. Second, it can only be when you are blatantly winning. In most cases, you can't kill your opponent, but you can perform some form of a move to push them to the decision of retreating (IE: broken limbs). But ONLY ONLY ONLY ONLY ONLY ONLY when you are winning, and have been winning for a long time.

You were losing horribly, and the fight barely got started. So for your performance, Slashmaster, I'd give you a 0 if there was a score.

On the other hand, IK, you performed amazingly when dealing with this misinformed newbie. You reacted tactfully and didn't stood down to Slashmaster's level. Good job.

Of course, I have yet to review the Aircrest VS Bane fight, but I found this one waaay more urgent.
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Postby Evil Eye » Mon Jun 21, 2010 6:14 pm

Doit.
Reviewit.
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Postby TyrannoTitan » Tue Jun 22, 2010 7:28 am

Ok, Aircrest VS Bane time.

First, let the record show that I totally called this being a ridiculous fight.

Second, you two are trying WAY too hard. As in, your moves are so complex that they become stupid and impossible. This is an example:

Aircrest suddenly jumped straight up as Bane neared, swinging his legs downward as the dromeosaurus passed under him.


This doesn't make sense. Had Bane been behind Aircrest, yes, it would make sense. But he wasn't. All that was said in EE's post was that Bane was across from him. If he had been facing Bane, he could've jumped over him, sure, but he wouldn't be able to slash down his back as he sailed in the opposite direction. It would cause Aircrest's legs to be pulled out from under him, causing him to fall.

As the raptor was kicking off him, Bane gripped the mossy branch Aircrest had been standing on, and jerked himself upward, sending the raptor upward, and jarring him against a higher branch.


First, WHAT THE F*CK IS WITH IGNORING HALF OF THE POSTS?! This is NOT normal RPG behavior. That is RPGT E-war behavior.

Second, this also makes no bloody sense. Ok, Bane and Aircrest are facing eachother, Aircrest kicks off, for that to happen, Bane would've cleared the branch completely already. He would've fell, not grab onto something he can't reach. Aircrest isn't facing Bane...same deal. No sense.

Third, since when can a raptor grip a branch hard enough to stop it from falling? These are large creatures, guys...

Suddenly, Aircrest's form shot out of the leaves above, slamming into the Dromeosaurus' side


I find this delightfully ironic, as CS was moaning and whining about Bane seemingly teleporting to Aircrest's left to hiss from there, undetected. He was right that it made no sense, but right in the quote HE F*CKING DID IT HIMSELF.

Bane was jumping up into the higher branches too. Then suddenly Aircrest was laying in wait? First, trees aren't easily seen through. It makes no sense how either was able to monitor each other's movements, besides rustling. Which brings me to the next point: How the f*ck couldn't Bane hear Aircrest moving in the "DENSE FOLIAGE", but Aircrest could hear Bane?

The two raptors fell many feet through the tendrils of the trees, before Bane slammed down on a branch. Letting the force of the fall transfer into his enemy, Aircrest sprung off of Bane again, landing on a nearby branch as leaves rained down around them...


...Ok, what the f*ck? Let's have a reality check here.

Aircrest: 80 pounds.

Bane: 87 pounds.

Combined, that's 167 pounds slamming into a TREE BRANCH. There is no way in HELL that there are ANY branches that strong. The strongest parts of the limbs, for example, the base, would be too oddly angled for something to stand on them effectively. Now we have two 80 pound predators smashing into one after falling for god knows how long. Completely unrealistic.

He twisted about as he fell, tucking his legs under him as he did, landing hard on a branch below...


Super branch strikes again.

Other then that, you even described him as "landing hard" on the branch. That meant that it probably hurt or at least momentarily stunned Aircrest for a second or two. BUT WAIT!

As Bane dropped down, Aircrest leapt up at him, the two colliding in midair.


Complete bullsh*t. EE actually exploited a hole in your defense, CS, and you just blew it off as nothing. Aircrest was not only ready to recover in time after Bane launched himself JUST AS AIRCREST DID, but he was also able to launch HIMSELF at Bane. What the actual f*ck.

Getting to his feet, he streaked forward, slamming into Aircrest, and knocking him back into the ground, before driving his fatal claw into the raptor's lower back...


Hold the god damn phone. They both freefell from a TREE, and Bane was able to react AND get to his feet in the same post? Stupid. Aircrest would have the exact same time available to react, which CS did, but it was once again using that "LETS IGNORE HALF THE POST" bullsh*t. It could've been avoided if you two weren't busy complicating things to the point of stupidity.

As Bane tried to bite Aircrest's leg, he missed, the claws flying into his mouth.


Um...what? Now we are having missed attacks now? Oh well, then, when Aircrest leapt at him at the beginning of the fight, he missed. When Aircrest slashed him across the face to make him release his arm, he missed.

You have no f*cking right to say it missed. By what I saw, it made perfect sense that he was able to bite the ankle. All he had to do was angle his head slightly and bam, bite the foot right behind the claws, without being at risk of being stabbed. You used semantics to your advantage, which is unfair and stupid.

Again, I knew this fight was ganna be trouble. You, EE, have been having issues with fights lately, at least in ISS. Too many combos and not understanding realistic movements. And I knew that CS, when confronted with this sh*t, sinks down to his opponent's level rather then being the bigger person.

And his impatience caused the whole "Lets correct other people's posts in our own"-a-thon that was this fight. When you have to ignore half a person's post, there is something seriously wrong with it. That should be discussed via PM, but CS was too impatient to wait for an edit, and the correcting sh*t became the norm. In a fair fight, you leave your attacks open and exploit the opponent's moves and mistakes. You can't make ridiculously long combos that don't give the other person time to react, but you can't go "WAIT I THINK I SAW A LOOP HOLE *Ignores 85% of the post*" either.
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