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[TyrannoTitan]

They don't climb the trees, they simply leap into the branches. And considering how high the raptors could jump in TLW, that shouldn't be a problem.

And although KP's input is welcome, you act like its required. It isn't. I have the same knowledge of dinosaurs as he does.

[UndeadRaptor]

Gira: I'd lol if that plan of yours would actually come together... or even happened in real-life for some reason.

Oh, almost forgot-happeh burthdey DM!

[Evil Eye]

The young ones, maybe... but a fully grown 80+ pound Dromaeosaur... good luck getting THAT off the ground and into the trees... (Now I'm laughing as I imagine a THerizinosaurus trying to get up into a tree via WAIR... oh my gosh...)

You forget it's all in proportion. The trees were far bigger then too, and the branches were, obviously, wide spaced enough for Dromaeosaurs to jump around them, whether they did or not. It was all in lockstep.

TT: Actually, I do believe they climb up a lot of the time, but some twisting and hyperbole is permitted in a fiction like this anyway, no?

Edit: And HAPPY BIRTHDAY DM!
*throws cake*

^ An action. BAD EE.

MOO

[TyrannoTitan]

Yeah, they can climb due to claws, but no, ninja moves aren't allowed for the most part. Moving through the trees is fine, but don't make it ridiculous.

Happy birthday DM.

Also: NO ACTIONS EE. YOU SHOULD KNOW THIS.

[Evil Eye]

Ah goddammit. Forgot.

[The Kingpin]

Although I appreciate value being put on my opinion, please don't make it the pivot of a discussion. if that's the case, nothing will get done when I'm not around.

As for the idea...

Argentinosaurus wasn't particularly fast. but it was enormous. hell, it took whole packs of Gigas to hunt down ONE. In all honesty, I don't think that the current number and type of fully grown Super Predators are sufficient to bring down an Argentinosaur of the size you're suggesting. taking it into perspective, there are probably only 3-4 Super Predators equipped to hunt that kind of prey. Thrasher [in spite of being heavily mutated and bulked up in terms of bone size and strength, and muscle mass], along with all other Spinosaurids and related species, cannot hunt something like that. they simply aren't equipped for it. they'd kill themselves just trying to get a dent into the Argentinosaur. Crusher, as you all have probably noticed, isn't even the size of a fully grown Allosaur yet. the best he could hope to do is hunt Tenontosaurs and maybe the random sub-adult Hadrosaur or Stegosaur. nothing close to Sauropod scale. HF's Allosaur Pack would be equipped to hunt something of that size, yes. But aside from them, there are very few Super Predators in ISS at the moment armed to deal with something like that.

As for the issue of fights, a fully grown one would probably keep a short period of peace while the predators were still starving. but once they had had something to eat and had seen the rate at which the kill was being consumed, that would probably change. they'd turn on eachother wanting to keep the largest part of the kill for themselves, and it would deteriorate into a blood bath.

then there's the issue of motive. Sure, hunting a huge monster Sauropod is all well and good. but the threats that surround that idea are enormous. Why would they put themselves in unneeded danger when isolated Parasaurolophus or Edmontosaur kills would satisfy each of them just as well, with considerably less risk? even if they killed the Argentinosaur, they'd have to be careful to be well out of the way when it fell, or risk being crushed by the massive weight of the animal, and that's not counting the fact a swing of an Argentinosaur's tail would be enough to fatally injure any Super Predator. it'd snap their ribs like twigs. smash bones and cause severe swelling in places that can't afford it. it's neck would serve a similar purpose. the animal could also use it's own body as a ram to counter a lunging attack. would pulverise the attacker in some cases. It's not really a minor thing.

I can think of several motives that could be applied to ISS for the purpose of a plot. but it's time you guys started building plots for yourselves. that's the difference between a minor RPer, and a True Writer. Leaving the work to others and just tagging along will not improve your writing skills. You have the time to spare now, so use it. Consider this an exercise. Work together to develop this, and show me what you come up with. Piece of advice: Don't make a hunt central to your plot. make it a major scene, sure. but build stuff around it.


As for the raptor debate, keep in mind trees back then were massive. In this timeline, InGen put WAAAAAY more time into the Jurassic Park project. Isla Sorna and Isla Nublar are both, in this storyline, heavily modified to support prehistoric life. the trees are easily at a scale to accommodate Raptors. the sheer size of the island and the amount of flora on it, as well as the growth rates of said flora, are all selected to support the enormous array of herbivorous species. hell, the herbivores have had their genetics hardcoded to increase reproduction rates, to satisfy the amount of predators on the island. But back to the subject of Raptors in trees. Raptors are impressive jumpers in general. later scenes of Sorna in The Lost World are very clear examples of this. they would have no trouble moving through the trees. sure, they might not be quite as fast as they are on the ground [unless that particular raptor happens to have spent most of their lives in the trees anyway, in such a way that they'd be more used to life in the trees than on the ground], but they would be able to navigate through them well enough to be efficient.

[Galaxia]

Uh I hate it when I get left behind in RTV3

An Argentinosaurus hunt you say? I doubt my character,let alone at his age in ISSR would even consider taking the job on even if everyone was "working together",if the hunt went successful Razorjaw would be there,but scavenging when the larger predators(ie the ones that killed the argen in the first place)had left

[Doc 42]

Moving through trees? Unlikely. I can picture Raptors climbing trees for the same reason Cats climb trees. To escape from predators, to find a secure resting spot and because its fun
Young animals of all kinds play games related to survival. Tree climbing could easily be one of them.

[Galaxia]

Perhaps young raptors did climb trees from protection,similar to young komodo dragons,the difference being I highly doubt it would for the same reasons juvenile komodo dragons do

[Giratina93]

...if that is the case...

G4E, UR! Let us develop this hunt into something... quite extraordinary, with all of us working together!

Bowser: I sense a bad omen in the future...

[Galaxia]

By "all of us" are you referring to literally everyone who posts in ISSR?

[Giratina93]

No... just those who want to participate...

I'll include in a new NPC's into the hunt...

Oh, and Happy Birthday DM!

[Galaxia]

Ah,well if it wouldn't be too much bother I might want to give it a shot,my character won't exactly me "right in there" if you know what I mean though

[Hopeflower]

Even my Allosaur pack would probably take heavy damage against a herd of Argentinosaurs. As you said, the sauropod's weight, tails, and necks are efficient defensive weapons. Diplodocus would probably be more within the range of what they could take down.

If there's no clear motive for the hunt, too, then why would a group of large predators - not all prepared to hunt this kind of dinosaur and of different species at that - even be interested in endangering their lives like that?

[Iceking]

Happy birthday, DM.

Regarding the Argentinasaurus hunt, I honetly don't have much interest in it. Hunting big prey as a plot device holds little appeal to me.

[Galaxia]

Now that I think about it HP has a point,besides look at my character,he's only a juvenile not to say he won't do a bit of scavenging if this goes through if you catch my drift

Oh yeah and happy B-day DM

[C S]

Holy **** cancer spreads fast

[TyrannosaurusRules!]

an argentinosaurus hunt you say, i could be one of the scavengers maybe, my characters cant touch those beasts.

[Galaxia]

Holy **** cancer spreads fast

I hope your not talking about their being actual cancer spreading CS,if not keep in mind I can't detect sarcasm or tone from just text

[C S]

Then you sir are a god amongst men

except that wasn't sarcasm. It was a general statement. The line above however is indeed sarcastic in nature